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Sunday, February 13, 2011

What is the future of J. Herbin Rouge Hematite (1670)?

Over on Quo Vadis blog, they posted asking about how everyone feels about 1670 being continued into production until 2012. This of course raises questions, as it was an ink commemorating the 340th anniversary of J. Herbin (hence the name, 1670).

But now it's been 341 years, so should the ink be discontinued? Or should the bottle be changed but the ink still offered?

If there's one thing I know about Quo Vadis blog and Exaclair (the US importer of Quo Vadis, J. Herbin, Rhodia, Clairefontaine...) it's that they really listen to feedback from their fans and customers. If you have an opinion about this ink, definitely jump over there and post how you feel about it on their blog.

Go post! They will listen.

14 comments:

  1. Thanks for sharing the link Brian. This is my comment:

    "Continue producing the ink but change the bottle and make it cheaper. This way people can still get this ink with its excellent shading but they won't be able to get the special bottle anymore."

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  2. I think that discontinuing the bottle is a good option. That way, the one that came out in 2010 will really be limited in a way. Also, from a video I once saw it looked like the wax on the bottle was all manual labor and therefore expensive. Switching to a simple bottle could (potentially) allow for the ink to sell at a lower price point.

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  3. I say put it in 100ml bottles....the price would stay the same but you'd get twice the ink and a more usable (though less beautiful) bottle. Those with the special bottles would feel special, and those who get the 100ml bottles would be able to use it to their heart's content! That's my $.02.

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  4. Groat, you better believe that a lot of the cost and the reason for the lack of availability of the ink is based on the current bottle/wax design. If it was in a different bottle, they could essentially product unlimited amounts of this ink.

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  5. I agree. The ink is great, it's by far my favorite red and it would be a shame for it to go away. But I say keep it avail as a standard 30ml bottle, drop the "1670" and just sell it as Rouge Hematite.

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  6. I think J. Herbin should keep making it in some form or another based on how well it has sold this past year, I think they should probably retire the 50ml wax capped bottle and sell it in some other form (probably 30ml bottle). I know I would be more likely to use more of the bottle that I have, if I knew I would be able to get more quantities in the future because I love the color. I have no problems using massive quantities of Eclat de Saphir (for example) because I know I will be able to buy bottles of it indefinitely. The thought that it could go away makes me use it sparingly.

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  7. I posted over there and said pretty much the same thing most other people are saying: change the bottle and keep selling the ink! It's one of my favorites and it would be nice to be able to use it without worrying that I may not be able to get any more when it runs out.

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  8. Elizabeth, I'm glad you posted over there even though you're saying what others already said. I know they pay attention to every comment posted there, and if there are just scads of people all screaming for the same thing, it's a lot more likely that thing is going to happen. If everyone wants this ink to continue to be made, but not particularly in the fancy expensive bottle, then tell them that and it can only help to actually result in that happening!

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  9. I think J. Herbin should keep making it in some form or another based on how well it has sold this past year, I think they should probably retire the 50ml wax capped bottle and sell it in some other form (probably 30ml bottle). I know I would be more likely to use more of the bottle that I have, if I knew I would be able to get more quantities in the future because I love the color. I have no problems using massive quantities of Eclat de Saphir (for example) because I know I will be able to buy bottles of it indefinitely. The thought that it could go away makes me use it sparingly.

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  10. What attracted me to the ink in the first place is the bottle. Its so unique and I rely love the wax seal, its brings an added character of its own. The ink is especially nice and wet, and looks awesome with the glass dip pens, and the shading is inkreadable! J. Herbin doesn't have a red that nice I think they should carry everything as is permanently.

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  11. Thanks for your feedback about the 1670. I'm also a fan of the ink and I'd like to see them offer it permanently. The future of the ink is still up in the air.

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  12. I spent several hours in your swab shop while deciding on the colors I would need.  After viewing several red swabs, and using a process on elimination, I decided on the 1670 Hermatite.  Now, 18 bottles & 23 samples later, it is still a favorite.  I don’t see where they would have to do a name change in order to keep it in permanent production.  It was the color that was created to commemorate their 350th Anniversary. That fact will not change.  PR does not change the DC Supershow names after a year.

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  13. I agree with you on that, they shouldn't have to change the name or anything. Doing that would only be confusing anyway. I think the main issue was more with the bottle....if they should keep the bottle the same or change it to make it like the other Herbin bottles. Still no word yet (as of 9/14/11) about what they're going to do with this ink ongoing.

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  14. I love the colour, but it nearly always takes on a greenish tinge after it dries!

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